Rms olympic where is it now
Mauritania , which had to be converted into a cruise ship at the start of the decade was pulled from service first in Olympic was pulled one year later in and sold. Her new owners briefly considered converting her into a summer cruise ship but the lasting effects of the Depression rendered this plan infeasible and she was placed up for sale again. Potential buyers included those who considered converting her into a floating hotel much like the RMS Queen Mary would become forty years later.
These plans also went nowhere. The Olympic would spend the last five months of her existence berthed alongside longtime rival Mauritania who's fate remained equally as bleak. Finally in an attempt to generate some much needed short term work, Olympic was purchased by Sir John Jarvis, a member of Parliament, for the sole purpose of scrapping.
In , she set sail one last time to Jarrow with huge fanfare. Upon arrival, Olympic's engines powered down for the last time and the scrapping process began. It would take a year to completely breakup the hull, ending the career of one of the most revered four-funneled liners ever.
A few more years in service, the British Government of the day would have spared her and Mauretania for wartime service. Especially the Mauretania, she would have been a fast oil-fired troopship, having formerly held the Blue Riband Of The Atlantic, which is the trophy only held by the fastest Passenger ships on the Atlantic Crossing.
Close to 30kts would have been attainable for Mauretania, lightened for war duty, coupled with zig-zagging, to make her a near-impossible target for U-Boats. Olympic on the other hand at kts, would have been more vulnerable, due to being naturally slower of the two ships.
However, her increased weight over Mauretania, some 20, gross tonnes heavier, well over feet longer, and safer in the event of a collision due to better watertight integrity, and a double bottom-double sides, added in the wake of the Titanic disaster.
Both ships would have come out of WWII successful, alive, while most likely shortening the conflict world-wide, perhaps as much as a year. The pair would have doubled the number of troops which could be transported then deployed in any active theater of war globally. The Great Depression shortened the life of many pre-WWII liners globally, even stalling the building of new liners to replace the aging fleet.
It was also responsible in no small part for WWII itself, as for a matter of survival economically, nations such as Japan, Germany, and Italy needed to secure oil and other necessities to allow them to continue to survive and grow, while remaining protected from invasions from other more financially secure nations nearby.
The loss of SS Normandy, due to fire and sinking pierside NYC harbor in , reduced the number of available large fast troopships available, lengthening the war, which is where Olympic and Mauretania would have fit in perfectly, with Ile De France, Aquitania, Queen Mary and the then new Queen Elizabeth.
Each troop ship could have carried anywhere from 10,, troops per ship per trip, to anywhere on the globe, at speeds anywhere between 24kts and 33kts. I think is a big mistake for them to scrapped the Olymipc. You see if she can rammed a U Boat,it would be prefect for the navy to use her during WW2 if she was not scrapped. And if she did not sank in WW2 she would around yaers old! Plus she would be a very old realible ship if they did noy scarped her. I think they should not scrapped the Olymipc.
You see, the Olymipc have been sailing the sea for 3 decades. Plus if she would be years old by now! So it is very big mistake for the White Star Line to scrapped the Olymipc! It seems that the owner purchased some of the Oak panels and bathroom fittings from the Olympic to feature in the bar.
This piece of history should have been saved : It was the last piece of the great Olympic Class liners. My uncle was a Private in the army heading to war in France and was on the Olympic when it rammed the German U-boat. Sadly, that was probably the first and last time he ever traveled on a ship alive He had made the rank of Cpl. To Tommy: I agree with you Tommy. I think they made a big mistake. After all you are talking about Titanic's identical sister and they were bout side by side at Harland and Wolff.
They have long history and I think The Olympic is really a time piece. Even the most famous and richest people in the day sailed on her. Why would you want to get rid of something that really had a very fine reputation? We will never know the answer. The other thing is that it sunk a German UBoat.
I was pleased that the Olympic was scrapped. Rip it to pieces with cutting torches and melt down the scrap. To Jeff: It was Olympic, not Olympia. To us it was piece of history with an interesting military career, but to the owners in when it was scrapped, it wasn't considered a "piece of history. Why would you scrap a piece of military and world history just for money that's just stupid I am very disappointed the Olympia was a amazing piece of history.
That myth which originally began in late was finally debunked and put to rest when Dr. Bob Ballard found the wreck site in Oly and Titanic were in fact twins, but not identical twins. Despite the fact that the Titanic's hull number was discovered at the wreck site on the engine mounts, the engines themselves, the propellers, and the fresh water tanks, the "B" deck configuration on the two ships were completely different.
Additional staterooms rooms were added to Titanic, and Titanic's promenade deck was enclosed with glass; Oly was not. Ballard confirmed all of this when he discovered the wreck site. Too many people refuse to objectively look at all the coincidences surrounding the Olympic and Titanic. IF the Olympic would have been saved they may have found some real evidence that could have proved that the twins had been switched.
Gabriel, they did give Olympic some "extensions. She had just gotten old and it was cheaper to scrap her than to modernize her.
Who would dare to scrap the Olympic sister ship of the titanic that set sail in Why did they not give the Olympic a few more times out in the middle of the ocean.
The author refers to the Immigration Act as well as the onset of the Depression which together really put a hurting on the future of the transatlantic crossing trade. Technology was the third undoing. Why take 5 days to cross when you could do it in 8 hours? The newly formed TWA and Pan Am airlines took the passenger and mail trade away from the great liners.
Randall, there have been several maritime disasters in both peacetime and wartime equal to or greater than Titanic. Over 4, people went down with the ship. Close to twice the amount of fatalities on Titanic. Great article, I enjoyed it. I acquired several items from Olympic for my White Star Line collection including floor tiles, silverware from first class as well as the engineer's mess, some woodwork and some dishes.
My dad came to America in on the Olympic. Grandfather Bun's was on the ship as well. He didn't survive but he made it off of the boat, he died in the frigid waters of the Atlantic. His journal is in a museum in New York because somehow it was taken care of and it was not ruined.
It was quite the extraordinary though. Great article. Olympic never sank but was retired from service. Britannic struck a mine in the Aegean sea and sank in 55 minutes. Great Article! I have always been fascinated by The Olympic class ships. I even did my Senior Paper for my History Degree on the 3 ocean liners and argued that they were all built very well contrary to popular belief.
The Olympic herself was overwhelming evidence that all the ships were in fact very strong and seaworthy. Awesome article. Grandfather was on this ship which left Halifax Aug 31 heading to vimy ridge. What a great ship she was. Just for interest : When the Olympic arrived in New York there was a considerable crowd looking at the new marvel of the sea and they were amazed at this huge ship, for they had never seen a passenger liner of that size. But it also seemed that other ships in New York harbour had not dealt with ships of that size either for some found it difficult to keep control in their berths as the massive Olympic passed by.
For example the O. The Olympic docked at pier The Olympic departed New York at 12 PM on June 28, and returned to Southampton on July5, having completed her return voyage in a faster time having averaged a good Originally a White Star Line photograph. During the ensuing few months, the Olympic became so popular and famed on the Atlantic that her sister in building the Titanic was not given a great deal of attention, such as had been with the first of the class being the Olympic in We could ask, why?
Well it could be because she was the second ship of the series of three. Well the truth is this, NO White Star Line never made such a claim, this rubbish was a total media upbeat and it has stuck to this day that people at large have began to believe it! By September 20, RMS Olympic had already completed four return Trans Atlantic voyages and all had gone well and she had been the great success as expected. However, as she departed on her next voyage on that day things were to change her perfect run, for just as she was turning at Bramble Buoy and Egypt Point she was suddenly met by another ship, the HMS Hawke!
Then at One minute later she increased her speed from 11 to 16 knots. Then suddenly, even before the Olympic had finished signalling the cruiser HMS Hawke was off Egypt Point and it was obvious that both vessels were attempting to head down the same stretch of water, yet there was not sufficient room. But still both ships collided with the HMS Hawke causing considerable damage to both ships. But the Hawke crashed into the Olympic's side.
Although the Hawke managed to stay upright but she was very close to overturning. Both Captains ordered the watertight doors to be closed. Thus the fifth voyage of the Olympic would go no further and passengers had to disembark at Osborne Bay and find alternative transport. The Hawke returned to Southampton for repairs. It took some two weeks to repair the damage to the Olympics. The White Star Line wanted her to be back in service as soon as possible because she was the pride of the company.
They would even delay the Titanic's maiden voyage if they had to. Just imagine if they had, maritime history would have been rewritten! By the way, the Titanic's propeller shaft was used to repair parts of the Olympic. Olympic returned to service on November 20, and she recommenced her fifth voyage. For the next few months it was plain sailing. Several more trips were made successfully. But then on the February 24, at PM the Olympic suddenly shuddered and she lost a propeller.
It meant that she had to return to Belfast for further repairs. The track record of the ship was not going too well. Captain Smith made a total of nine return voyages to New York and then he was ordered to his new command. There was considerable excited chatter amongst passengers and crew that the two ships would pass each other at sea.
However, as fate would have it on April 14, at The RMS Titanic seen heading off to sea; her first and final voyage! Artist impression of the impending doom awaiting a great White Star Liner! Forty minutes after the collision, Captain Smith ordered the distress signal to be sent to other ships in the area.
Captain Haddock on the Olympic heard all the distress calls but did not realise the extent of the problem until about 1 AM the next morning. An artist impression of the disaster as the ships floods. Captain Haddock realised that the Olympic was over miles away the tragic scene, which was a full days sailing at full speed and he would be far too late.
Here we see the SS Carpathia which became the great saviour of so many. Finally a decision had to be made that the Olympic had simply no choice but to continue straight to Southampton as she would be of no further assistance. She arrived on Sunday April 21, with most of her passengers being in a rather melancholic mood considering they had heard news of the tragedy.
There may well have been passengers that have had friends or even relatives on the Titanic and thus they would have been eager to check the passenger lists posted by White Star Line. Obviously, lifeboat capacity had been examined with scrutiny and thus she was fitted with an additional 24 boats and further crew to man them. Sadly many of the lifeboats on the Titanic left without being filled or manned by an able seaman. The Board of Trade had to inspect the changes before she was to depart on another voyage and Captain Maurice Clarke was in charge of doing so, thus he gave the ship a vigorous inspection.
He ran continues lifeboat drills trying out all the new davits and thankfully he was most impressed with the new improvements, as it took and average of The Olympic should have sailed on the 24th April but the voyage had to be postponed, which was not due to the Titanic disaster or adding the lifeboats and inspection, etc, but the ships crew refused to sail on a ship that had collapsible lifeboats.
They insisted on conventional open type wooden boats and they simply did not care that Captain Clarke was satisfied that the Olympic was now safe. However, White Star Line would not accept the crews reasoning and decided they would obtain another crew. The Olympic was taken to a secure dock off Spithead whilst the company sought a new crew.
But they found it a rather demanding task, thus a trade union delegation stepped in and offered a compromise. Apparently the debate was the safety of the collapsible lifeboats, for when they were in water for considerable time. Here we see collapsible lifeboat number B that was found adrift by the ship. Mackay-Bennett during its mission to recover last of the bodies from the Titanic site area.
Therefore some six collapsible lifeboats were lowered and left in the water for over two hours and they were then closely examined to see how much water they contained. Five out of the six were completely dry but the sixth had a small leak, but it did take two full hours for the water to appear. It could easily have been bailed out during use. It was agreed that the boats were indeed safe. The sixth boat was duly replaced and new crew members joined the ship.
Unfortunately, the original crew were not only dissatisfied with the lifeboats but with the new crew as they saw them as not only being inexperienced but undesirable to have around.
Many were very angry and fearful about their future position with the company that well over 60 left their employ and looked for work with other lines. The Olympic returned to Southampton so that her passengers could disembark. Her next scheduled Voyage was now scheduled for May 15, It gave the White Star Line sufficient time to find union approved crew as well as lifeboats.
Obviously he was checking the capacity of the ship as well as her safety features. He was shown various features, including the watertight doors and how the lifeboats worked. Mr Smith seemed satisfied. It must have been strange situation for Captain Haddock to have to face for it seemed that the whole world is watching him. These modifications included the addition of a new watertight bulkhead that divided her Electric Engine Room, as well as the installation of an inner skin running the full length of her Boiler and Engine Rooms, as well as the raising of several critical transverse bulkheads all the way to B Deck.
During this refit, the Olympic was also blessed with few of the Titanic additional interior features, such as the delightful Cafe Parisian, which was located alongside the optional First Class super deluxe Ala Carte Restaurant.
Upon completion Olympic emerged somewhat larger than the Titanic had been. A note regarding the Ala Carte Restaurant :. When the Olympic was launched this amazing venue was very quickly voted as being one of finest Restaurants in the world. The Ala Carte Restaurant was situated on B deck for the exclusive use for First Class passengers only and this sumptuous restaurant was in addition to the already sublime First Class Main restaurant on D Deck.
Even though this was certainly high end dinning venue and it was therefore quite costly, however, meals were available from 8 am till 11 pm daily and all tables were always fully booked.
The Restaurant Manager believed in the principle that the customer is always right and every wish and whim must be pampered to. Soon time passed since the tragedy of the Titanic and the Olympic certainly did not suffer from any problems, thus she proved to be the perfect ship for White Star Line, especially knowing that now she had been fitted with all the appropriate safety measures and thus the Olympic was gaining more and more popularity as time passed! The Olympic seen in one of her pain jobs during the war years.
With the war having been declared, the Olympic sailed on April 8, , without any passengers, no mail or cargo from New York back to Liverpool. Although she did make several further passenger voyages, but these were between Liverpool and New York instead of Southampton.
She departed New York on October 21, with some 1, passengers on board. However on October 27, she was alerted by wireless that the battleship HMS Audacious had struck a mine off Toy Island and the Olympic rushed to the scene and managed to rescue of the seamen with other British warships having picked up the remaining crew, with only 2 crew members having perished.
The HMS Audacious was wallowing helplessly and her stern awash, thus the Olympic attempted to take her in tow, but sadly the battleship could not be saved. With Captain Lord being in a rush to get into the North Atlantic Ocean he had left the wireless chart in which he needed, behind. Of course the SS Californian was only one of six ships that would have been in a mile radius of Titanic. Something else that is unusual is that, when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th to be stripped and broken down part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK.
The panelling used shows number on the frame that says this was the number that was given to Titanic when it was being built in Belfast, Ireland. However, if the panelling had been from Olympic the number would have been not Does this prove that the two ships were actually switched or is it just perhaps a strange coincidence that both these numbers appear on the frame of the wood panelling which belonged to Olympic or was this done on purpose to help with the cover up of the switch?
Another thing is when you look at the at anything to do with advertising for the Titanic and White Star Line for that matter, the ship that was always used was Olympic and its interior every time they needed pictures.
Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? Some evidence of the switch. Published: AM - 18 Mar Did the Titanic Really Sink or was it Olympic? This post is all about whether the two ships were switched and will leave you with the chance to discuss what you think. Titanic Mystery TitanicMystery. There was also something else that could help to back up his theory and that comes in the form of the owner J.
Morgan and fifty other first class passengers.
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